2012-12-30 - Re: [GRASE-Hotspot] Mesh network setup

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From: Santiago Berniz <sb***z@gmail.com>
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Bob,
  Thanks for the reply, that's really helpful. I would like to know how to
deal here with what i got on hand. mesh network are really new for me. and
i would like to integreate it seemlessly to the enduser, which at the
moment is a bit hard to do because i usually require some kind of
disconection from the grase to test. since i onlyhave one grase computer at
the moment. I would like to have local dashboards (like the villageco)..
but i so far have linksys routers, i personally like athero based routers
also but that'll have to wait for now. also, can i do similar configuration
using dd-wrt? and preferibly, still using stock firmware on main router/ap?
thanks
Santiago

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> Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 13:39:25 +0100
> From: OlotWireless <ol***s@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [GRASE-Hotspot] 3.7.7.2 PLEASE TEST (Was Re: 3.7.7
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> Hello Tim:
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> Just install 3.7.7.2 version under ubuntu 12.04.1 and restore MySQL with
> my old DB and seems all running well after reboot and reconnect users.
> Also the "machine MAC users".
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> Congrats for this new version and thanks for your time and fine work.
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> Pere
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> El 20/12/2012 23:34, Tim White escribi?:
> > 3.7.7.2 is in dev this morning. More minor fixes.
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> > I do need people to test this before I push it as stable. You can easily
> > downgrade to 3.7.6 if you find issues that prevent you from working.
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> Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 20:38:28 -0500
> From: Santiago Berniz <sb***z@gmail.com>
> Subject: [GRASE-Hotspot] Repeater Problem Update
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> Hello Tim or Drazen,
>  i tried with a regular access point and repeater, and still having the
> same issue, the issue i get when the repeater connects, other than that, i
> have no trouble at all.. i tried diff repeatres sstill same problem.. I
> wonder if the problem is with the network card on my computer since i think
> i have hte access point section on an old nic card... or does that has
> nothing to do with it . I really need to get a repeater working soon and i
> dont see how to.
> Alsok, does anyone in the list know if i can use dd-wrt setup of hotspot
> and just use the freeradius on the computer? I was thinking of maybe trying
> wpa2 enterprise
> THanks again
> Santiago
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> Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2012 13:02:57 +1100
> From: Bob Hunt <bo***2@gmail.com>
> Subject: [GRASE-Hotspot] Repeaters, WDS, or Mesh
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> Santiago,
>
> I never had any success using repeaters to extend hotspot range .
>
> I did get WDS to work, but it rapidly became impossible to manage as
> my network grew. MAC address routes have to be hard coded into each
> router and loops avoided, making a very dificult to configure and
> fragile network.
>
> I now use a mesh network and IMHO, this is definitely the way to go,
> as it is forms a robust, self configuring and self-healing nework,
> which can have nodes added and removed at will .
>
> I began my mesh using "Robin" (an open source variant of OpenMesh)
> which is easy to get started in as it uses a remote dashboard server
> to configure, manage and visualize the routers in your mesh.
>
> I didn't like being dependent on remote servers so  I eventually
> migrated my mesh to the SECN2 firmware from http://villagetelco.org/,
> and this forms a transparent layer 2 bridge which works perfectly with
> Grase.
>
> For real-time visualization of my mesh, showing link-status,
> user-details etc, I use the "SPUD" vis server  software also from
> http://villagetelco.org.
>
> Downsides are that each node requires manual setup and specific
> atheros based routers. For indoor use, I use TP-link wr703n at around
> Au$21 each and Dlink DIR300 which are cheap if second hand. For
> outdoors, I use Ubiquiti PicoM2HP weatherproof units with POE.
>
> FYI, Here's a screenshot of my vis sever
> https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B8Zo7istnNXpN3ZyUmM2MWFPVWc
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> Cheers,
>
> Bob
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> On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 1:26 PM,
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> Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 07:29:23 +0100
> From: Johnny Solbu <so***u@solbu.net>
> Subject: [GRASE-Hotspot] (SOLVED) Expiry times
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> On Tuesday 17. July 2012 05.08, Johnny Solbu wrote:
> > And is it possible to change the expiry time? We can't seem to fine a
> way to change the expiry times of users which haven't expired yet.
>
> And by accident we figured out that you can change the expire time.
>
> Edit the expire time, or remove it, for the group you want to change or
> remove the expire time.
> Change the user to another group, then change the user back to the group.
> the user will then inherit the new changed expire time. If the new expire
> time is missing, the user no longer have expire time.
>
> If there's a lot of users one want to change, this might be a pain, but
> it's doable.
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> Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2012 22:18:56 +0200
> From: Raed Zaro <ra***o@gmail.com>
> Subject: [GRASE-Hotspot] strange behavior
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> Dear All wish you all the best of the season may will blessed days bring
> peace to every and each one of you
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>
> I installed grase hotspot and it worked fine till yesterday as I used my
> ISP
> DNS but yesterday started to give me DNS error
>
>
>
> My network goes as follow
>
> SEVER - TP-LINK Router [DHCP enabled using same server IP] - Edimax Router
> [DHCP enabled using same server IP] - then another edimax router had it own
> DHCP Range
>
> Each router had its own IP address
>
> Today I discovered that if I connect or any one connect to the third router
> , and if any one is already logged in its no need to log in again and it
> consider them all as single user..
>
>
>
> The other issue I defined the download/upload limit for some users to 40GB
> but when these users reach 4GB it give user alert that bandwidth exceeded
>
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> Hope to hear from you all
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> Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2012 06:38:13 +1000
> From: Timothy White <ti***8@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [GRASE-Hotspot] strange behavior
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> On Dec 30, 2012 6:19 AM, "Raed Zaro" <ra***o@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > My network goes as follow
> >
> > SEVER ? TP-LINK Router [DHCP enabled using same server IP] ? Edimax
> Router [DHCP enabled using same server IP] ? then another edimax router had
> it own DHCP Range
> >
> > Each router had its own IP address
> >
>
> Your problem is that you are doing Layer 3 routing instead of Layer 2. Each
> "router" needs to act as a pure Access Point, with no ip routing occuring.
> This means that you need to disable DHCP on all the routers, and any
> firewalls and NAT. All the "router" should be doing is "bridging" the
> wireless and wired networks at the Layer 2 level (Layer 3 is ip addresses,
> Layer 2 is MAC addresses).
>
> > Today I discovered that if I connect or any one connect to the third
> router , and if any one is already logged in its no need to log in again
> and it consider them all as single user?.
>
> What is happening here is that the router is "routing" instead of being an
> access point, and so the grase server can't see the clients behind the
> router, it instead sees the router as one client, and that one client
> happens to invisibly share it's internet with all the clients connected to
> it.
>
> >
> >
> >
> > The other issue I defined the download/upload limit for some users to
> 40GB but when these users reach 4GB it give user alert that bandwidth
> exceeded
>
> This has been fixed in the 3.7.7 dev version which is currently waiting for
> more people to test it before I release it properly. Have a look back in
> the list archives 2 weeks and you should find instructions on how to test
> it.
> This was caused by a limitation in one of the other pieces of software
> underneath the hotspot, so has been a major change, so all the testing we
> can get is appreciated.
>
> Tim
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