2016-05-25 - Re: [GRASE-Hotspot] dhcp lease pool after default install
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From: Dražen Žuvela <dr***a@radez.hr>
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UTC Datetime: 2016-05-25 01:43:40 UTC
Raw Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 10:43:40 +0200
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Hi Christopher,
I am quite surprised that you have "Antamedia" there. Even it is
windows based solution, still that is one of the oldest and the most
complete software of this kind for many different scenarios guess.
(After googling I realized that I knew those guys and software. They
started with many years ago in Serbia, in time we all were on damn slow
dial-up internet. Their internet cafe software was one of kind in world
wide)
Why you just continue to use that software - price maybe?
rgds.
Drazen
25.5.2016. u 6:44, 'Christopher Gregory' via Grase Hotspot je napisao/la:
> Hello Tim,
>
> I am going to detail the exact setup I have here and clarify what I
> did/tried in the to the internet.
> I have one network cable plugged into a LAN port of this TENDA wireless
> router plugged into eth1 on the server.
> Also plugged into a LAN port is a cable going into a Ethernet over power
> adapter which is what I use to connect to the internet and administer the
> LAN.
>
> You should now have, I hope, a clear indication of what setup we have here.
>
> Now we were using a windows 2003 server which was running antamedia hotspot.
>
> The ipaddress of the LAN was set to static with an ip address of 192.168.0.5.
>
> The TENDA had an ip address of 192.168.0.1. The WAN network card was set
> to a static ip of 192.168.1.2.
>
> Antamedia handled the dhcp and adding of users etc.
>
> Now the following is what I did to setup grase:
>
> 1) Disconnected the windows drive from the motherboard and put in a 120gig
> sata drive.
>
> 2) I installed debian jessie using expert mode and unchecked desktop
> environment and checked ssh and webserver. I left the system utilities
> checked.
>
> 3) I completed the installation.
>
>
> 4) I ran apt-get update to update the packages and also aptitude update
> just to make sure everything was in sync.
>
> 5) I then did:
>
> apt-get install sysvinit-core sysvinit-utils
> cp /usr/share/sysvinit/inittab /etc/inittab
>
> rebooted and auto-purged systemd and pinned it and the packages that
> depend on it in apt-sources so that it would not install it again.
>
> 6) I then installed mysql-server, php, phpmyadmin etc.
>
> 7) I changed the network interface of eth1 to be manual.
>
> 8) I then went through and installed the grase-repo and installed
> grasehotspot.
>
> As you can see at this point I have changed nothing on the TENDA. I have
> left the network strictly alone.
>
> 9) I then updated apt again and ran apt-get upgrade to make sure that
> everything was at the newest possible level.
>
> 10) I then rebooted the server and came down to my room and tested access
> to the default 10.1.0.1 grase admin interface, which worked fine. I
> changed nothing at all at this stage in grase or on the network.
>
> 11) I then got people to try and connect to the hotspot just to see if
> they could bring up the login page as I had configured no users at this
> point. They were not able to bring up the login page.
>
> 12) It was then at this point that I logged back into the server and found
> that it was actually issuing ip addresses in the 10.0.0.1 range.
>
> 13) It was ONLY at this stage that I went in and changed the ip address
> and netmask on the TENDA to be in the same range that they were able to
> bring up the login page.
>
> The ONLY change that I made to an out of the box installation was to COPY
> grase from /usr/share into /var/www as it would not bring it up from the
> default location. I had to change grase config to point to the new
> location of course.
>
> If after reading this you still think changing grase would get the dhcp
> leases page to work, I am willing to try it. At this stage everyone is
> able to log in and browse the internet using grase.
>
> I just have no idea why a default installation would not work straight away.
>
> As to your question of what model the TENDA is, I would have to get up the
> ladder to actually see that.
>
> Sorry for this rather long and detailed reply but I needed to make sure
> that you knew exactly what I did.
>
> Regards,
>
> Christopher.
>
> On Wed, May 25, 2016 9:25 am, Timothy White wrote:
>> Hi Christopher
>>
>>
>> If the Wireless "Router" is truely just acting as an Access Point, and
>> not routing, then you can ignore what range it's on and just configure the
>> Grase Hotspot how you wish. Ideally, you want your management IP's on
>> Wireless AP's to be on a different network to your clients, so a rogue
>> client can't easily discover the AP's management to attempt to break in. If
>> it's a true Access Point, it's IP being on a different network to the
>> clients and the Grase Hotspot won't stop it working, as all it's doing is
>> passing Layer 2 traffic around, where IP is Layer 3.
>>
>> Do you know the model number of the AP?
>>
>>
>> Also, can you try putting Grase onto something like
>> 192.168.0.1/255.255.255.0 (your WAN is 192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0 so no
>> conflict there). I think you'll find it'll just work regardless of your
>> AP's settings. (Note: you'll probably want to reboot after changing the
>> IP
>> range, there are some small bugs that a reboot fixes)
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 12:06 AM, 'Christopher Gregory' via Grase Hotspot
>> <
>> gr***t@grasehotspot.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Tim,
>>>
>>>
>>> I had to change the ip range from the default due to the fact that it
>>> was giving out ip addresses in the 10.0.0.x range right after it went
>>> live.
>>>
>>> It was not my choice to use the 255.0.0.0 mask. The tenda will only
>>> accept that mask with the 10.x range. It gave the error that the subnet
>>> could not be segmented or something along those lines. I searched
>>> google and found someone with the same issue and that was the
>>> manufacturers advice. When I first did the installation I had not
>>> changed the ip address on the wireless router. It was still set to
>>> 192.168.0.1.
>>>
>>>
>>> I want to ditch that wireless router and get one that has gigabyte lan
>>> ports. Wireless access can get a little patchy as the main house is
>>> totally concrete.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>> Christopher.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 25, 2016 12:05 am, Timothy White wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm not sure why, but the range in the database isn't the default
>>>> one. Have
>>>> you since changed it?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 1. #chilli_lanip 10.0.0.2
>>>> 2. #chilli_wanif eth0
>>>> 3. #chilli_lanif eth1
>>>> 4. #chilli_network 10.0.0.0
>>>> 5. #chilli_netmask 255.0.0.0
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> If you changed the netmask to 255.0.0.0, then even with an IP of
>>>> 10.1.0.1
>>>> as the server IP, it would start the DHCP range at 10.0.0.1
>>>>
>>>> A good tool to see ip ranges is sipcalc. You can see that the start
>>>> of the range is 10.0.0.1. You also have a stupidly large IP range. You
>>>>
>>> should
>>>> reduce your netmask to something reasonable, such as 255.255.255.0,
>>>> or 255.255.254.0 if you need more than 250 odd clients.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tim
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> $sipcalc 10.1.0.1/8
>>>> -[ipv4 : 10.1.0.1/8] - 0
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [CIDR]
>>>> Host address - 10.1.0.1
>>>> Host address (decimal) - 167837697
>>>> Host address (hex) - A010001
>>>> Network address - 10.0.0.0
>>>> Network mask - 255.0.0.0
>>>> Network mask (bits) - 8
>>>> Network mask (hex) - FF000000
>>>> Broadcast address - 10.255.255.255
>>>> Cisco wildcard - 0.255.255.255
>>>> Addresses in network - 16777216
>>>> Network range - 10.0.0.0 - 10.255.255.255
>>>> Usable range - 10.0.0.1 - 10.255.255.254
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 9:34 PM, 'christopher' via Grase Hotspot <
>>>> gr***t@grasehotspot.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello Tim
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is the support information as requested:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://paste.grasehotspot.org/view/76b9031d
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> With regards to something else giving out the incorrect leases,
>>>>> that is not possible. Reason I can confidently state that is that
>>>>> this was on a fresh install of Debian.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I encountered that error ie after the fresh install I did
>>>>> indeed check in radmin page and the 10.1.0.1 ip was listed there. I
>>>>> then did a complete wipe of the harddrive again and a fresh install
>>>>> of Debian. The
>>>>> wireless router before this installation had an ip address of
>>>>> 192.168.0.1
>>>>> and dhcp was not enabled on it as we were using a windows based
>>>>> commercial hotspot which handled the dhcp itself, and that
>>>>> harddrive is physically disconnected from the motherboard.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am totally puzzled as to where the dhcp range was being allocated
>>>>> from. I am the only one who administers the network. I checked
>>>>> after the second clean installation and the only dhcp that is
>>>>> installed is dhcp-client.
>>>>>
>>>>> The /etc/dnsmasq.d/01-grasehotspot after both installs had shown
>>>>> the default per your instructions ip address of 10.1.0.1.
>>>>>
>>>>> I could accept that on a server that had been running that things
>>>>> can go wrong, which is why I find that after I have been testing
>>>>> things out and made changes that I do a complete re-installation of
>>>>> the operating system prior to putting the server into use.
>>>>>
>>>>> Before installing gracehotspot or anything else I purged systemd.
>>>>> I
>>>>> will not use systemd in a production environment at this stage, even
>>>>> though I have tested it out for a couple of years on my own
>>>>> computer.
>>>>>
>>>>> I normally compile the whole os from scratch, but as the owner of
>>>>> the backpackers is not an IT person it is better to have a system
>>>>> that can get regular security updates.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am glad to be finally rid of windows 2003 server.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It may well be that we will never work out exactly where it was
>>>>> picking the ip pool up from. I just hate mysteries like that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Chrristopher.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, 24 May 2016 22:09:04 UTC+12, timwhite88 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Christopher
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It may help to collect support information as stated on
>>>>>> https://grasehotspot.org/support/collecting-support-information/
>>>>>> The IP range that is served is set in the Admin interface. You can
>>>>>> see on the demo version the correct location (
>>>>>> http://demo.grasehotspot.org/grase/radmin/netconfig)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can also check /etc/dnsmasq.d/01-grasehotspot to see that the
>>>>>> settings are actually being sent as expected. That file is used
>>>>>> by dnsmasq and coova-chilli to load the network range. I wonder if
>>>>>> you somehow have something other than coova-chilli serving DHCP,
>>>>>> and hence that's why it's not appear in the DHCP leases page, and
>>>>>> also giving the correct lease.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a Debian Jessie testing machine, so I'll check that DHCP
>>>>>> leases page works for me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 6:24 PM, 'christopher' via Grase Hotspot
>>>>>> <
>>>>>> gr***.@grasehotspot.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After attempting to get daloradius, freeradius, mysql and dhcp
>>>>>>> to work nicely together I discovered grasehotspot so I did a
>>>>>>> fresh install of Debian Jessie. No desktop just LAMP and ssh
>>>>>>> server.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After installing gracehotspot the admin url etc is 10.1.0.1, so
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> had assumed that this is the range that would hand out ip
>>>>>>> addresses. After
>>>>>>> people failing to obtain an ip address I checked the iptables
>>>>>>> --list
>>>>>>> and it showed all the forwarding rules with the 10.1.0.1 range
>>>>>>> as you would expect. What I did not expect and really would
>>>>>>> appreciate knowing where in the config files to find it, is that
>>>>>>> for some bizzar reason it was allocating ip addresses in the
>>>>>>> 10.0.0.0 range.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I ended up changing the ip address on the wireless router to
>>>>>>> the 10.0.0.x range, and having to change the default 10.1.0.1
>>>>>>> settings used for the installation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The setup we have here is that there is an tplink wireless
>>>>>>> router on the wall (dhcp is disabled on it so no dhcp there)
>>>>>>> with the ethernet cable plugged into a straight ethernet port
>>>>>>> rather than the wan port. This then goes to the server and
>>>>>>> plugs into eth1. Eth0 goes to another tplink gigabit wireless
>>>>>>> router that is plugged into the Fibre access point. Wireless is
>>>>>>> turned off for this device.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I had a poke around in the mysql database using phpmyadmin but
>>>>>>> was not able to find it there.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As previous people have mentioned, the re-directs to the login
>>>>>>> page were not working here either. We are a backpackers and
>>>>>>> have people with tablets, iphones, mac's windows pc's android
>>>>>>> phones of various ages all behaving the same way.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I downloaded the fixed version of coova-chilli and it started
>>>>>>> working.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The one thing that is not working, and I would like it to, is
>>>>>>> that on the dhcp leases page nothing is shown there. It all
>>>>>>> gets posted to syslog. What file do I need to change in order
>>>>>>> to make the leases show up there?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Christopher.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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