2014-12-14 - Re: [GRASE-Hotspot] Add Data to Limit

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From: Derek Mitchell <de***2@gmail.com>
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Message ID: <cd60f1e0-f565-41c1-80c1-d26cd076b0ca@grasehotspot.org>
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UTC Datetime: 2014-12-14 16:01:07 UTC
Raw Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 15:01:07 -0800

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Thanks Tim, That makes sense. So this feature is really only for tickets 
with an expiry and not recurring limits is that right?

Regards,
Derek

On Saturday, December 13, 2014 12:13:21 PM UTC+10, timwhite88 wrote:
>
> Not quite.
>
> It's a little hard to explain. The recurring data limits are dynamic, in 
> that they are calculated on a dynamic range of usage. At the rollover of 
> the month, it just starts calculating based on the usage from the 1st of 
> the month.
> The normal Data limit is calculated on the lifetime of the account, except 
> to make it easier we compact the "lifetime" every month. We compact 
> everything older than about 2 months, as this works best in most situations 
> for still seeing last months logs. What this means, is if you have a 20Gb 
> data limit, it calculates based on this months usage and last months. At 
> the end of the month, we compact everything older than 2 months, put the 
> monthly totals into another table, and subtract the new monthly totals from 
> the current data limit. E.g. if you used 2Gb 3 months ago, and we run the 
> compaction, your datalimit will now display as 18Gb in the admin interface. 
> However, when you login, it'll display as 18Gb minus what you have used 
> this month and last month.
>
> When working out what you data limit should be, at login it calculates the 
> recurring data limit, and the normal data limit, and if either limit is 
> reached, it prevents you logging in.
>
> So in your example, if your user has used 40Gb this month (with no 
> previous months), with a 40Gb recurring limit, and you "add" 20Gb, they 
> will still not be able to login as they have exceeded the 20Gb "lifetime" 
> limit. Next month they will also not be able to login, and the month after 
> when compaction runs, their data limit will become -20Gb (which is just set 
> to 0 I believe). Effectively, you'll lock them out permanently. 
>
> Some better documentation is probably needed.
>
> Sometimes it makes sense combining recurring limits and normal limits 
> together. E.g. a 30Gb quota but limited to 2 hours a day; think teenage 
> child, they can waste their quota if they wish, or can stretch it out over 
> however long they like.
>
> Tim 
>
> On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 12:16 PM, Derek Mitchell <de***.@gmail.com 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Tim, So if they are on the 40Gb recurring limit and you add 20Gb 
>> using the "Add Data to Limit" option, when it resets at the end of the 
>> month they will only have 20Gb instead of 40.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Derek
>>
>> On Friday, December 12, 2014 12:05:24 PM UTC+10, timwhite88 wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Derek
>>>
>>> The way the limits work, is if any limit is reached, they are cut off. 
>>> If you add a data limit to someone with a recurring limit, they'll suddenly 
>>> be limited to that data limit. So in your situation, say they'd used 30Gb 
>>> for the month, and you applied a limit of 20Gb, they would have already 
>>> reached that limit and so will be cut off. If you applied a limit of 60Gb 
>>> to the account, and they have a recurring limit of 40 per month, they'll be 
>>> limited to 40Gb this month, and assuming they use it all, then next month 
>>> they'll be limited to 20Gb.
>>>
>>> It's much more difficult to give someone "bonus" data until the end of 
>>> the month.
>>> What I normally do in these situations, is create a second user for 
>>> their bonus data that expires at the end of the month.
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 11:59 AM, Derek Mitchell <de***.@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi, If you "Add Data to Limit" under a user that is on a 40Gb monthly 
>>>> recurring data limit, will that just add data for the user until the end of 
>>>> the month when the limits are reset or will it add to the recurring 40Gb 
>>>> already specified in the group setting? If you add 20Gb to the data limit 
>>>> will it then allow the user to have 60Gb per month from then on or will it 
>>>> reset back to 40Gb at the end of the month?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Derek
>>>>
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