2016-11-18 - Re: [GRASE-Hotspot] Re: Block Windows and Apple Updates?

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From: Timothy White <ti***8@gmail.com>
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Reply To: <cb9a8bf2-f3e5-47f4-bfc7-5914ac90cac8@grasehotspot.org>
UTC Datetime: 2016-11-18 18:42:14 UTC
Raw Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2016 11:42:14 +1000

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Not sure about Apple updates, but this certainly sounds like the issue
described here.
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/2530363
http://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2016/06/08/is_win_10_ignoring_sysadmins_qos_settings/

Basically, my understanding is that it's "broken" tcp that isn't correctly
backing off like it should.

Where about are you located? So far, suggests seem to be that it may only
be in Australia that the issue is there. I'll certainly try testing it out,
but it may be a few weeks before I can try as I just did the last round of
Windows 10 updates on my VM.

Regards

Tim


On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 10:36 AM, Sai <sa***i@emeraldtechs.net> wrote:

> Speed tests give results as expected, regular downloads and web browsing,
> voip, video streaming, also don't bog down the network.  Whenever 100%
> network utilization is coming from the grase hotspot router I will visit
> the "Monitor sessions" page and note that the offender (sometimes only one
> computer on the network) is currently accessing Windowsupdate or Apple
> Updates. The problem doesn't seem to be in the configuration of groups at
> all as everything is tuned down to 1.5Mbps on a 20Mbps connection but when
> updates become active it starts using around 18-20Mbps and the internet
> slows to a crawl on any other devices. This behavior doesn't stop until I
> either manually open an elevated command prompt and run "net stop wuauserv"
> or disable automatic apple updates or until the offending computer logs
> off.
>
> On Friday, November 18, 2016 at 2:34:18 PM UTC-8, timwhite88 wrote:
>>
>> Hi Sai
>>
>> If you do a speedtest (like testmy.net) does it report the correct
>> bandwidth for the limited bandwidth? If not, I expect you have an issue
>> with your setup, maybe you aren't applying the group you expect to be
>> applying.
>>
>> The bandwidth limit is based on a "leaky bucket" so it can burst past the
>> limit, but should quickly settle down to the limit. I've not had any
>> situation where the limit isn't obeyed if the correct group is applied.
>>
>> Can you show us some of the group settings pages?
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 2:52 AM, Sai <s.***.@emeraldtechs.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Any clue as to why the updates seem to punch through set bandwidth
>>> limitations and how to limit them?
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