2018-01-04 - Re: [GRASE-Hotspot] Repeater over AP on grase hotspot

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From: Drazen Zuvela <dr***a@gmail.com>
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UTC Datetime: 2018-01-04 03:31:21 UTC
Raw Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2018 11:31:21 +0100

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Hi Bob.
I never using repeater mode because it will divide speed to 50%. What I am
using is "link" with 3 device setup.
1. Base AP connected to Grase (Network mode: Bridge, Wireless mode: AP+WDS)
2. Middle unit (Network mode:Bridge; Wireless mode: Station + WDS)  (+
usually directional antenna attached to for bigger distances)
3. AP device at the end point. Eth cable connected to device no.2 (Network
mode: Bridge; Wireless mode: AP)

here are some documents illustrating my setup.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bwpmm0Bk8oTYVkRsbnpTRDZESm8/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bwpmm0Bk8oTYdUVqTjJQOGRaSFk/view?usp=sharing
https://docs.google.com/drawings/d/1lhGtjMIEvIOOE4ycfjuNeCO_WlSG5lc2AVjCHTnLThA/edit?usp=sharing

There are one AP with double panel antennas on high mast covering east side
(basically illuminating 3 floors of neighbourg house)
2nd AP with 9,5dbi stick antenna on my roof, illuminating 360 deg around my
house, but also used to link remote yagi antenna for 2nd neighbourg
200meters away south-west direction. There is Station device on Yagi and
another AP connected to.
3rd AP with parabola antenna at 5GHz band, directed to west. 1 kilometers
away there is oposite Station parabola at 5Ghz, forwarding trough cable to
2.4GHz local Ap.
How you can see there is a mix of different brands and types of equipment
and even firmwares (Gargoyle). For steady link I would recommend Ubiquity
equipment because it works without any issue. (Tp-link version works but
sometimes need power resets to get clients connect properly. Besides I used
indoor units repacked in different waterproof boxes in order to be used
outside. Kinda of cheaper, but after years of practice primary outdoor
equipment works much better then my DIY outdoor packages.
Hope this helps.
Dražen

2018-01-04 7:52 GMT+01:00 Bob Hunt <bo***2@gmail.com>:

> Hi Gerard,
>
> My Grase setup works fine in a rural village situation, with around 20
> nodes running "secn" mesh firmware downloaded from
> https://villagetelco.org, on Ubiquiti and TP-Link atheros devices.  The
> site also has a webstore with ready to use mesh devices available. As Tim
> mentioned, the secret is having the connections handled on layer 2 (mac
> address layer), which this mesh setup does.  There are also other mesh
> devices around but this is the only one I have any experience with.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bob
>
> Bob Hunt
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> On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 1:58 PM, Gerard Pacete <ge***1@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Thursday, January 4, 2018 at 9:27:43 AM UTC+8, bob.hunt.52 wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Gerard,
>>>
>>> This may be the same problem that I encountered using Grase over my mesh
>>> network. The solution was to setup the mac addresses of all the repeater
>>> nodes with computer accounts on the Grase server, so that Grase allows
>>> traffic from those nodes.
>>>
>>
>> Hi Bob,
>> Glad to see response that fast, i tried ur idea just now and it didnt
>> work as well. Thanks by the way.
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, January 4, 2018 at 9:34:27 AM UTC+8, timwhite88 wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Gerard
>>>
>>> This is normally an issue with how the repeater functions. The
>>> repeater is a "client" on the Wifi network, and all the clients "hide"
>>> behind the 1 client. (Like NAT). You need WDS or similar, to be able
>>> to get proper Layer 2 over the Wifi. Often this means you'll need a
>>> WiFi AP that is compatible with the repeater, so that they can do the
>>> correct WDS that is required.
>>>
>>> Any chance you can run a cable to each extra AP? That doesn't required
>>> compatible Wifi AP and repeater, as you just have multiple AP's with
>>> the same SSID and the clients will "roam" between them when the signal
>>> strength drops.
>>>
>>
>> Hi Tim,
>> First of all, thank you very much. Understand. Now we are getting into
>> option to wire multiple APs. It will be quite a bit difficult though look
>> like this is the easier way as we tried several repeaters and routers and
>> we cannot get to work even one repeater up. :(
>> We have limited budget too that i cant buy more devices to test.
>> Anyway, thank you again and more power!
>>
>>
>> - Gerard
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